Shamans

topic posted Fri, June 26, 2009 - 12:56 PM by  Hummingbird
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I think I have posted before about those annoying con artists who say thay are shamans. I found this thread today in the "Shamanism" Tribe. Would you out your health in their hands?

shamanism.tribe.net/thread/e...75cf25795
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  • Re: Shamans

    Fri, June 26, 2009 - 3:04 PM
    OMG, they're spiritual god and godess drama queens!

    I think there may be a reason that the only time mainstream media reports that the care of a person with something like cancer or in need of bypass surgery is when it ends in the patients death. Most people who get spiritual healing are just smart enough to go to a hospital and the few who do place their health in the hands of these (sometimes well meaning) charlatans end up dead, not cured (unless misdiagnosed in the first place). It's no surprise that just about every type of spiritual healing success I hear about (mine included, more on that in a moment lest you think I'm a nutjob) is either emotional healing, self reporting of pain or self limiting conditions.
    In the past I went to a chiropractor and an acupuncturist for back pain (the kind that makes it impossible to sit or walk for any length of time) before I had a true understanding of what they really do. In all fairness the chiropractor was a really good guy and I got some awesome massages in his office and he didn't push the sublaxtion thing or the other weird herbal stuff. He was more about alignment and therapy and massage, though he did still do adjustments, which turned out (surprised?) in my case to do about as much as doing nothing. So I learned about chiropractic the expensive way.
    The acupuncture thing in my mind is even more bizarre, I only went to her like 3 or 4 times and gave it a chance before concluding that it didn't do jack shit. During that time I learned about chi and realized it was a made up energy. Since then I have become well educated on the implausibility of acupuncture. I think I even tried cranial-sacral massage which is an even bigger spiritual/physical con.
    So I left all of that a little poorer and a lot wiser. I stuck to pilates and yoga and swimming and the orthopedic back surgeon confirmed what I came to realize, my back pain is self limiting and gets better every year just given time... gah! I hate learning things that way.
    The good news is, my back feels much better and I will never waste my money on a drama queen shaman! The end. ;)
  • Re: Shamans

    Fri, June 26, 2009 - 6:38 PM
    Putting the "sham" in shaman.
    • Re: Shamans

      Sat, June 27, 2009 - 7:34 AM
      Shamans often say such trite nonsense as "there is no such thing as a coincidence." This explains why the word sham is right next to the word shaman in the dictionary.

      From reading the posts by shamans in their tribe I get the feeling that a good deal of the stuff they say comes from a script of the 70's TV show 'Kung Fu" they probably think the old guy who uttered platitudes to David Carradine was really deep.

      Here is a quote from one of the shamans from this morning: "Flys go for the shit and bee's to honey, what your looking for is a choice you make."
      • Re: Shamans

        Sat, June 27, 2009 - 8:12 AM
        Well, flies don't sting, so I guess I should embrace my inner shit?...
        • Re: Shamans

          Sun, June 28, 2009 - 2:02 PM
          >>>I think there may be a reason that the only time mainstream media reports that the care of a person with something like cancer or in need of bypass surgery is when it ends in the patients death. Most people who get spiritual healing are just smart enough to go to a hospital and the few who do place their health in the hands of these (sometimes well meaning) charlatans end up dead, not cured (unless misdiagnosed in the first place). It's no surprise that just about every type of spiritual healing success I hear about (mine included, more on that in a moment lest you think I'm a nutjob) is either emotional healing, self reporting of pain or self limiting conditions. <<<

          And as a prime example of such:

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete...lers#Death

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