At least so says Rolling Stone and Robert Kennedy Jr.
www.rollingstone.com/news/st...n_stolen
"Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House."
www.rollingstone.com/news/st...n_stolen
"Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House."
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Re: The Horror! Bush stole Ohio in 2004!
Sat, June 10, 2006 - 8:00 PMIs anyone suprised?
You know, my home state of Georgia standardized on Diebold machines before the state elections of 2002, the first time ever that a state had standarized machines. The governer and senate elections were also two fo the biggest upsets in the history of democratic elections that year.
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Re: The Horror! Bush stole Ohio in 2004!
Tue, June 13, 2006 - 8:09 AMI live in Ohio. I just got a postcard saying I'll have to prove who I am with photo ID for the first time ever. One more way to trim the list of voters, since the poor are less likely to have a licence or a state ID. Maybe they're still trying to find Osama, and they're hoping he'll turn up in a voting booth in rural America... (no, that can't be it, we're not seriously looking for him anymore) I'm seriously disturbed the the man in charge of purging voter lists and setting hurdles for voters is running for governor. I can't imagine a much greater conflict of interests. He's not even trying to hide it anymore. Everyone knew he was tweaking the laws to get Dubya in office.
The fact that he actively disbelieves in the separation of church and state is equally disturbing. He has openly stated that women should not be permitted acess to abortions, even in cases of rape.
I'd gladly keep our current corrupt and convicted fool rather than have this religious nut in office.
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Re: The Horror! Bush stole Ohio in 2004!
Mon, July 17, 2006 - 9:59 PMRolling Stone published an article by Robert Kennedy, Jr. that asks provocatively, "Was the 2004 Election Stolen?" While it covers many topics involving alleged suppression and fraud in Ohio, the article disappoints in its discussion of the exit poll controversy, because on that aspect of the controversy Kennedy manages to dredge up nearly every long-ago discredited distortion or half-truth on this subject without any acknowledgement of contrary arguments or the weaknesses in his argument. It is as if the exit poll debate of the last eighteen months never happened. With this two-part post, I want to review the article's discussion of the exit poll controversy in-depth, for it provides a good opportunity to learn something about what exit polls can tell us -- and mostly what they cannot -- about whether fraud was committed in the 2004 elections.
Part 1: www.mysterypollster.com/main/2...ht.html
Part 2: www.mysterypollster.com/main/2..._1.html
Part 3: www.mysterypollster.com/main/2..._2.html
Part 4: www.mysterypollster.com/main/2...ht.html
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The amazing thing is that RFK Jr. was interviewed on PBS's Charlie Rose program last week about this very topic. -
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Re: The Horror! Bush stole Ohio in 2004!
Tue, July 18, 2006 - 3:55 AMThe 2004 election is a done deal. What we learned since then is far more serious than questions about Ohio. Bush knowingly lied the country in to a war. 50,000 citizens of Iraq and 2500 US soldiers have died for nothing. Bush has tried to undermine the constitution, having only recently been restrained by the US Supreme Court. We have a "president" who thinks creationism should be taught with evolution and whose concern for the value of life seems to be limited to stem cells. The same kind of science that goes into doing exit polls is used for non election opinion polling. According to those polls right now only about 35% think Bush is doing a good job. 55% want the US out of Iraq now, 61% think the US should never have gone to Iraq and a similar number think the war has not been worth the cost.
Debating the 2004 election is a distraction from building effective opposition to the policies of Bush and company. We should put our efforts into movements like the anti-war movement, pro choice actions, defending gay rights and defending science against the likes of Bush and his anti science followers.
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