Looks like our moderator is MIA. Shall we pick a new one?
I'll happily throw my hat in the ring, to see if we can bring more activity (and fun) to these pages.
I'll happily throw my hat in the ring, to see if we can bring more activity (and fun) to these pages.
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Re: New moderator?
05/03Mickey - What's your interest in and/or involvement with shamanism?
So far this tribe has rolled along fine with the current moderator so I'm for sticking with them. If not them, someone who's a proven skeptic. I don't know your position Mickey (as to whether you're a skeptic or not) but I'm a bit skeptical about the call for a new moderator now - particularly as supported by someone who I've seen actively supporting someone who promotes pseudoscience. The people of the woo like to try to associate themselves with science and skepticism - or take it over - as a way to impose their faith based beliefs. -
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05/03"So far this tribe has rolled along fine with the current moderator so I'm for sticking with them"
Supposedly, they are working on reprogramming, and updating tribe. If this does happen, many of the inactive accounts will be deleted, and since our moderator hasn't updated his profile in over a year, this might include him.
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05/03Unless the crrent moderator is unsubed due to reprograming of tribe.net then I think we should keep them as moderator. I too have seen takeovers by those who would supress skeptical thought. If for instance a moderator is partial to shamanism I would hope they would not supress those who are skeptical of shamanism. For instance I believe that it is no coincidence that the word sham appears next to the word shaman in the dictionary. I think that 99% of self -described "shamans" these days are charlatns, BS artists and outright crooks. I would not want anyone in charge who would censor that idea. -
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05/03Hummingbird - Well, someone could be interested in shamanism without adopting the belief system of an Amazon or Siberian tribe or people, anthropologists study shamanism without being believers. I have no idea what Mickey's take on it is, which is why I asked.
I sent an email to the moderator so let's give them some time to get back to us. Clearly up until this point we've all been fine with the situation as it is and if all Mickey and !Alex! want is to liven up the tribe or make it more fun is post some topics - there's no need for a new moderator.
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05/03I support Fifi,
I think someone in a tribe of shamanism is obviously suspect to being an actual skeptic. -
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05/03!Alex! - That is what you think, not what I said or what I think. So you don't support me, nor do your thoughts reflect my own. I think someone who wants to be moderator of a skeptics tribe who has shamanism listed amongst their interests and what they're here for needs to shed some light on their interest in that subject if they want to be in the position to lord over all the rest of us. I'd expect the same question to be asked of me if I wanted to become moderator of a skeptics tribe since I list "magic" as an interest (though by that I don't mean magical thinking or illusions, but special moments of fun/love/inspiration/connection).
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05/03and he's been very pro-active in making the atheist tribe pick up since he took over the moderation. it's definitely gotten better since he took over. this tribe has been pretty dead and could use similar treatment. i would definitely vote for mickey. -
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05/03matthew - Let's give the moderator some time to see if she chimes in or responds to emails, and for people who only log in at work to weigh in, before we take it to the top and request to change moderators.
I'm just finding it a bit odd that !Alex! seems to be quite involved in a lot of moderator changes around tribe. If it's just a question of wanting to lively things up no one needs to become moderator to do that - they can simply post some things. Perhaps those who'd like to be moderator could tell us why they think they'd be the best person for the job?
!Alex! doing his thing in the raw vegan tribe...
rawvegans.tribe.net/thread/0...94e8fa3fc
That said, I'll check out the atheists tribe and I'm neutral about Mickey as moderator at this point. Of course, if it keeps this as a place dedicated to actual skepticism not the faux kind that the promoters of ID and such claim they practice, I'm all for more active moderation. -
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05/03Funnily enough, the newly joined Mandrill seconded his vote..... Eerily reminiscent of the newly minted !Alex! appearing in EH to attempt a takeover... -
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05/03that is strange. i wonder whose sock puppet that is.
i think it's just a coincidence with mickey though. i've seen mickey trying to revitalize several tribes that i belong to in a positive way.
"Funnily enough, the newly joined Mandrill seconded his vote..... Eerily reminiscent of the newly minted !Alex! appearing in EH to attempt a takeover..." -
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05/03i would like to hear mickey's answer to your question about shamanism though.
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05/03"that is strange. i wonder whose sock puppet that is. "
Sock puppet? I actually prefer to be called a meatsicle -
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05/03either way, i don't think you should get a vote.
"Sock puppet? I actually prefer to be called a meatsicle"
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05/03The Mandrill - You may or may not be a sock puppet. It's just odd that you're all shiny and new (just like !Alex! was when he started his career in EH) and also involved in the raw vegan tribe (literally) seconding !Alex!'s nomination for a new moderator. It could merely be a coincidence...or not *shrug*You're an unknown entity with the hallmarks of the sock puppet at this point. -
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Please check the other Raw Vegan link I posted, and I will volunteer to withhold my vote, either way
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The Mandrill - Yes, yes, most of us actually are skeptics *lol* Are you a raw foodist?
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I am currently a vegan, but I have been toying with the idea of a switch.
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Well, a few people recommended it, and I figured that if there was actually any real reasoning behind it, that I might give it a try. But alas, it does not seem that way. Personally, for others, I notice that it seems like a purity thing
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Well, a few people recommended it, and I figured that if there was actually any real reasoning behind it, that I might give it a try. But alas, it does not seem that way. Personally, for others, I notice that it seems like a purity thing
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The Mandrill - Fair enough, I like salads too but that's a bit different than being a raw foodist. And, yes, it does seem to be a purity kind of thing. Most raw foodists I've known have also been really into colonics and the details of how and what they poo...lots of purging and cleansing. It's an industry that promotes a lot of pseudoscience (and, yes, as flaky as it seems it's an industry).
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I never try to needlessly dismiss anything. A few friends, who switched to the diet, kept raving about how great they felt. Personally, most of my diet consists of fresh fruit and vegetables, so I figured if it sounded interesting, it wouldn't be that hard of a transition.
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The Mandrill - I also give things a chance before dismissing them. Which I did with raw food but there's a hell of a lot of pseudoscience, fanaticism and cultish aspects associated with it. It's interesting to watch players in the business distance themselves from certain beliefs that won't fly in the mainstream as they try to sell more and become more famous.
What kind of diet did your friends switch from? Vegan to raw vegan? Fasting and lack of adequate nutrition can cause feelings of euphoria (which is why fasting is used in so many religious rituals) so that's not actually an indication that it's good for you.
My condolences for your adventures in Leslieland. -
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"What kind of diet did your friends switch from? Vegan to raw vegan? Fasting and lack of adequate nutrition can cause feelings of euphoria (which is why fasting is used in so many religious rituals) so that's not actually an indication that it's good for you."
One was vegetarian, and the other was Vegan
"My condolences for your adventures in Leslieland. "
LOL... Yeah, that guy is nuttier then squirrel turds.
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Re: New moderator?
05/03rawvegans.tribe.net/thread/e...b2f53759c
This thread will give you a better idea of the moderator problems in that tribe
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05/03people are so bizarre. my impression is alex is just bored and trying to feel involved. haha.
my experience is that mickey has not done that kind of thing, and i've never seen alex interact with mickey before this thread. waiting to see if the moderator chimes in sounds good to me.
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!Alex! doing his thing in the raw vegan tribe...
rawvegans.tribe.net/thread/0...94e8fa3fc" -
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05/03I was accused of being a puppet also..actually I have been accused of so many things.. i don't bother to remember..most of them are projections just like you see here with Fifi...
my favorite ones come from Fifi. -
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05/03yes, you two obviously have that special kind of relationship we see occasionally on tribe.
you are pretty apparently not a sock puppet, at least it's apparent now anyway. "the mandrill" by his name alone and the character of his profile is much more obviously a sock puppet.
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05/03""the mandrill" by his name alone and the character of his profile is much more obviously a sock puppet."
I'm just trying to maintain my street cred
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05/03I vote for MIckey..but hell I'm new.. so if they're objections..well I'll vote for the anti-Mickey. I'm fickle that way -
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05/04Thanks, guys. I have long tried to email the current mod, and he is definitely MIA. My attempts to track him down have turned up empty.
I am skeptical of shamanism. At least, I am totally skeptical of much of the new-age hoo-hah that seems to pervade what could otherwise be a perfectly study-able thing. But we shouldn't get into a debate on shamanism in this thread. Just know that I'm a skeptic. -
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05/04Mickey - Um, are you asking us to take your word that you're a skeptic? ;-)
The current mod is a she, btw. Not that it matters.
Shamanism has been and is studied in a variety of disciplines. What aspect of it do you think needs to be studied and isn't? I'm not interested debating the validity or whatever, just what your interest in it is.
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05/04!Alex! - Please don't send me private messages. I'm not going to open emails with titles like "can't control yourself?" and I'm not interested in engaging with you privately - particularly since you appear to want to take your troll like behavior (dressed in new age fluff, like your "friend" sunshine's is) to another level.
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Subject can't you control yourself?
Message would you stop with your boring gossip.
I know it seems like I want to start shit here, but that's not the case..
just control yourself.. that EH crap is the past.. composted and fertilized and turn into a nice garden of flowers, with beautiful aroma.. you're into aromatherapy aren't you? then you should know your poo smell can beget flowery one...
just play fair..
that's all i ask.
not that this tribe means anymore than EH did..
if it means a whole lot to you, consider leaving..just make the request. -
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<<if it means a whole lot to you, consider leaving..just make the request. >>
Sorry.. that statement is quite unclear and I don't understand it - what did you mean ? That Fif (who posts a fair bit in the Skeptics tribe and is a valued member) should leave this tribe ?
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If it looks like shit stirring, and the person's an accredited shit stirrer, there's a good chance it's shit stirring. You've yet to show that you're here for any reason other than shit stirring.
There's nothing unfair about revealing your public actions to the other people in this tribe. What is unfair to the people in this tribe is for you to try to conceal your past actions and association with woo so you can present yourself as something other than you've already shown yourself to be. Okay, so you've admitted you joined EH and pretended to be someone else (how very honest of you) and you also had an agenda you refused to be honest about in that tribe before you were eventually booted (did I mention how much of an ongoing ass one has to be to get booted from EH?). Why would any skeptic believe you when you say when your actions clearly contradict your claims? Particularly when your friends are joining skeptic talk to vote and casting a vote for a new mod in a tribe they've just joined. -
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you just proved my point: debunking EH gets one called a shit stirrer.
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!Alex! - "debunk" *rotflmao* Whatever. Considering you earlier claimed you weren't responsible for the way you acted in EH, now claiming that you were some master debunker is just contradicting yourself. Keep on digging your own grave here as you promote your conflicting stories.
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.how does one "debunk" a tribe? or a concept like extreme honesty? what does that even mean?
*sigh*
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<<how does one "debunk" a tribe?>>
the same way charlatans get debunk, the claims are tested with the evidence.
what's claim of the EH tribe? look at the mission statement.
where do you find evidence? on postings on that tribe and the ones related to it: THE TRUTH ABOUT EXTREME HONESTY and EXTREME HONESTY TRIBE REFUGEES.
It's really not that hard.
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